Concise Minutes - Equality and Social Justice Committee


Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 5 (Ty Hywel)

Meeting date: Monday, 29 September 2025

Meeting time: 11.00 - 15.50
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/15640


Hybrid

------

Attendance

Category

Names

Members of the Senedd:

Jenny Rathbone MS (Chair)

Mick Antoniw MS

Jane Dodds MS

Altaf Hussain MS

Julie Morgan MS

Sioned Williams MS

Witnesses:

Rocio Cifuentes, Children's Commissioner for Wales

Dr Kate Attfield, Cardiff Metropolitan University

Kieran Sawdon, National Deaf Children’s Society

Dr Rob Wilks, University of the West of England (UWE)

Jamie Martin, National Deaf Children’s Society

Committee Staff:

Rhys Morgan (Clerk)

Angharad Roche (Deputy Clerk)

Masudah Ali

Gwennan Hardy

 

<AI1>

1       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

The Chair welcomed Members and witnesses to the meeting.

No apologies, substitutions or declarations of interest were given.

</AI1>

<AI2>

2       Stage one scrutiny of the British Sign Language (Wales) Bill: evidence session five

Kieran Sawdon, National Deaf Children’s Society

Jamie Martin, National Deaf Children’s Society

Rocio Cifuentes, Children’s Commissioner

</AI2>

<AI3>

3       Stage one scrutiny of the British Sign Language (Wales) Bill: evidence session six

Members heard evidence from:

Dr Kate Attfield, Cardiff Metropolitan University

Dr Rob Wilks, University of the West of England

</AI3>

<AI4>

4       Papers to note

Members noted the papers.

</AI4>

<AI5>

4.1   Correspondence from the First Minister of Wales to the Llywydd regarding Committee recommendations

</AI5>

<AI6>

4.2   Correspondence from the Llywydd to the Chair regarding Committee effectiveness

</AI6>

<AI7>

5       Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting

Members agreed the motion.

</AI7>

<AI8>

6       Stage one scrutiny of the British Sign Language (Wales) Bill: consideration of the evidence

Members considered the evidence.

</AI8>

<AI9>

7       Reviewing Committee Effectiveness in the 6th Senedd: consideration of response

Members considered a response to the review on Committee effectiveness in the 6th Senedd.

</AI9>

<TRAILER_SECTION>

</TRAILER_SECTION>

<LAYOUT_SECTION>

1.          FIELD_TITLE

FIELD_SUMMARY

</LAYOUT_SECTION>

<TITLE_ONLY_LAYOUT_SECTION>

2.          FIELD_TITLE

</TITLE_ONLY_LAYOUT_SECTION>

<HEADING_LAYOUT_SECTION>

FIELD_TITLE

</HEADING_LAYOUT_SECTION>

<TITLED_COMMENT_LAYOUT_SECTION>

FIELD_TITLE

FIELD_SUMMARY

</TITLED_COMMENT_LAYOUT_SECTION>

<COMMENT_LAYOUT_SECTION>

FIELD_SUMMARY

</COMMENT_LAYOUT_SECTION>

 

<SUBNUMBER_LAYOUT_SECTION>

2.1          FIELD_TITLE

FIELD_SUMMARY

</SUBNUMBER_LAYOUT_SECTION>

 

<TITLE_ONLY_SUBNUMBER_LAYOUT_SECTION>

2.2          FIELD_TITLE

</TITLE_ONLY_SUBNUMBER_LAYOUT_SECTION>